Yahoo – AFP,
Ivan Couronne, November 13, 2019
Hampton (United States) (AFP) - "Extremely educational" is how Greta Thunberg sums up her North American sojourn as she prepares to cross the Atlantic once more, this time bound back for Europe.
Hampton (United States) (AFP) - "Extremely educational" is how Greta Thunberg sums up her North American sojourn as she prepares to cross the Atlantic once more, this time bound back for Europe.
The
16-year-old Swede, who became world famous for founding the "school
strikes for the climate," will set sail Wednesday morning, weather
permitting, after 11 hectic weeks of criss-crossing the US and Canada, making
headlines at every turn.
She
excoriated world leaders at the United Nations, met former US president Barack
Obama, received the keys to the city of Montreal and road tripped across the
continent in a Tesla electric car lent to her by actor and ex-governor of
California Arnold Schwarzenegger.
But what
did she make of the impact of the UN summit, the weekly student strikes, the
protests where millions packed the streets worldwide to demand action against
anthropogenic climate change?
"It
depends," she says in her usual matter-of-fact manner in an interview with
AFP on board "La Vagabonde," a sailboat owned by a young Australian
couple that will be her home for the next two to three weeks.
She is
wearing an oversized black windbreaker emblazoned with the words "Unite
Behind The Science" as heavy, freezing rain pounds the hull.
"In
one way, lots of things have changed, and lots of things have moved in the
right direction, but also in a sense we have gone a few more months without real
action being taken and without people realizing the emergency we are in,"
said the high-schooler, who will return to her education next year.
She
expresses her admiration for the people she met "who are living at the
front line, and who are experiencing and living through the first consequences
of the climate emergency" -- such as fellow teen Tokata Iron Eyes of the
Standing Rock Sioux Nation, who fought in vain to stop the construction of an
oil pipeline on her homeland.
What did
she learn from Obama? "It depends on how you define learning. I got an
experience and he explained things to me, how it was to be in his position, how
things work, and so on, so that, I guess."
Her
assessment of the presidents and prime ministers she encountered at the UN, meanwhile,
was less than stellar.
"World
leaders and people in power, politicians ask me for selfies and ask other
climate activists for selfies because they want to look good next to us and
say, 'We care about the future of this planet, we care about future generations
and young people today,'" she said, unsparingly.
She won't
mention names, but says "it was quite a lot."
Even those
countries that have committed to net zero emissions by 2050, such as the United
Kingdom and New Zealand, are not doing "nearly enough," she insists,
adding that the media must do a better job of communicating why these targets
aren't sufficient to avert long-term climate disaster.
Asia in
2020
When it
comes to Donald Trump, dubbed by critics as the
"climate-denier-in-chief," Greta suggests that, paradoxically, he may
have helped galvanize the movement.
"He's
so extreme and he says so extreme things, so I think people wake up by that in
a way," she believes.
She
preferred not to dwell on a video clip of her appearing to glower at Trump at
the UN that went viral on social media, saying she was simply surprised to see
him.
"I wondered why he was there because the thing was that he was not supposed to be there," she explained. "That was the news. So something must have changed his mind so that he showed up there."
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The seas
are expected to be rougher on Greta Thunberg's return journey to
Europe, given
the season, but she says the prospect of harsh weather
doesn't perturb her (AFP
Photo/NICHOLAS KAMM)
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"I wondered why he was there because the thing was that he was not supposed to be there," she explained. "That was the news. So something must have changed his mind so that he showed up there."
Six souls
will set out on La Vagabonde: Elayna Carausu, 26, and her partner Riley
Whitelum, 35, together with their 11-month-old boy Lenny; 26-year-old
professional British sailor Nikki Henderson, who was called upon to help,
Greta, and her father Svante.
The elder
Thunberg has accompanied his daughter throughout her journey and greeted
journalists, but hasn't given any interviews on the trip, and Tuesday was no
exception.
They set
out early Wednesday from the pier where the "La Vagabonde" has been
moored for the past week, the property of a retired couple who are passionate
about sailing and who had offered the young Australians a free stopover --
before its most famous passenger was added to the manifest.
Greta plans
to attend the COP 25 climate summit in Madrid, which starts in just under three
weeks, before heading home to Sweden.
For 2020,
"I don't have any plans right now," she says. Her school year starts
in August.
That said,
"if I get an invitation to go somewhere, I will definitely try to get to
places I haven't been in already, especially places in Asia, and of course, meetings,
like, world leaders gathering, if I get invited."
The seas
are expected to be rougher on her return journey, given the season, but she
says the prospect of harsh weather doesn't perturb her, as the boat's owners
and skipper busy themselves with final preparations.
She shows
reporters a cabin and the toilets, and says she doesn't suffer from seasickness
-- at least she didn't last time.
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